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Red Harvest
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Posted - 2007.07.16 09:14:00 -
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I think the FC made the right choice.
Ventrillo ban to get "radio disciplin" back and pod killing for the utter disrespect both pilots showed for their gang mates sounds very good to me.
AND i would consider kicking them from the corp if it happens another time within 2-3 weeks.
If the pilots want to smack each other they can use privat-convo or even corp chat but never ever a TS/Vent gang ops channel.
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Red Harvest
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Posted - 2007.07.16 11:49:00 -
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Somthing quite a few people have missed is that the FCs decision was made shortly befor an engagement (which was known to come).
4 minutes befor the enemy arrives is really no time to stop at warning someone, most of the time this just leads to more "discussions"
So Vent ban and podding was the fastest and most efficient way to get rid of a problem disturbing the op.
Yes, some alliance commanders go a bit too far when they demand participation in their ops and as long as its not to defend the home system i dont like that either.
BUT if its a defense op i really expect everyone to help even if its only in a frig.
100% corp tax usually gets everyones attention if calls in ally/corp chat dont help. 
And tbh the best way to do ops is with a military structure with one in command.
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Red Harvest
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Posted - 2007.07.16 12:25:00 -
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 Originally by: Dionisius
Right, taking your atention away from your real targets was the proper course of action... nice touch, classy.
Getting disciplin and focus back is way more important.
Hostiles can be ignored till you are ready to engage them.
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Red Harvest
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Posted - 2007.07.16 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: SiJira
its what happens when people take eve too seriously
This has nothing to do with taking eve too serious (lots of ppl do though) but efficient teamplay. For the more idividualistic ppl this isnt fun but for me and lots of other ppl its great to fly with a good organized gang and an FC who knows what he¦s doing.
Just a different level of gameplay which i think is more mature and professional but still fun.
BTW i keep telling my mates the same about their football (aka soccer), that they are taking it too serious etc but on the other hand their regional liga club is quite successful. 
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Red Harvest
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Posted - 2007.07.16 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: SiJira
if the army worked like that then new soldiers would be stranded all over the battlefields eh? not very smart
Most armys work pretty much like that and o/c on all ships (commander = GOD).
Recruts/sailors get drilled hard to grasp that right from the start.
Armys are no democracys and thats why they are efficient at what they do.
And actually you can be shot in most armys during a war (even today) if you disobey orders or sabotage the own troops (not to mention cowardice in battle).
On the bright side death is pretty much meaningless in EVE unless you lose some very expensiv imps and/or ship so i certainly wouldnt hesitate shooting a corp mate whos annoying everyone over TS if the FC orders it.
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Red Harvest
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Posted - 2007.07.16 14:59:00 -
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He came in later but he was informed about the op and ordered to grab a combat ship (thats how i read it).
He even might not have heard the order about radio silence (if it wasnt repeated).
BUT if there is a fleet op it doesnt matter! He should have known about the radio silence if he wasnt a total noob with the corps way to run gangs.
He simply shouldnt have answered back to the tackler and nothing would have happened to him.
Im 100% sure that "the most efficient armies", whoever those might be (maybe the british), have a draconic disciplin. Soldiers that talk back or cant keep their mouth shut certainly have no place there.
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Red Harvest
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Posted - 2007.07.16 15:32:00 -
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Thanks for the clarification.
Especially with those points in mind, podding was a thing both should have seen comming.
If Mr. A cant swallow it he should really think if he isnt in the wrong corp.
A corp with military structure and leadership might not be the right place for him.
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Red Harvest
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Posted - 2007.07.16 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: Sharupak
What has this game come to?! You cant even have a heated discussion between corpies about their ho bag moms because it is punishable by 14 milisecond death! 
Im sure you can discuss that as much as you like in that corp too but not during a fleet op on the command channel.
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